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Trump’s Impulsive Foreign Policy Is Tearing Apart the Global Order

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🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

More To The Story: When President Donald Trump returned to office last year, he promised to largely steer America clear of foreign entanglements. But over the last year, his administration has captured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, threatened to take over Greenland, openly talked about making Canada the 51st state, and most recently attacked Iran. In some ways, it might appear that Trump is trying to revive the American empire. Not so, says Daniel Immerwahr, a Northwestern University history professor and author of How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States. What Trump is really doing, he says, is undermining the international system itself. On this week’s More To The Story, Immerwahr sits down with host Al Letson to examine Trump’s attack on Iran, why Trump is ripping apart the post-World War II international order, and the long-term consequences of the president’s impulsive foreign policy.

Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Copy editor: Nikki Frick | Digital producer: Artis Curiskis | Deputy executive producer: Taki Telonidis | Executive producer: Brett Myers | Executive editor: James West | Host: Al Letson

Listen: Al Gore: Trump Administration Is the Most Corrupt in History (More To The Story)
Read: Trump’s New Nuclear Nightmare in Iran (Mother Jones)
Read: How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States (Picador)

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People sometimes look at Trump's wars and they see imperialism.

0:06.4

I mean, I think of imperialism as generally, like, seeking to construct an empire, like a vast administrative unit.

0:12.5

And what I see in Trump is sort of the cannibalism, like cannibalizing the empire.

0:17.0

Like this is like just like this hit and run strategy.

0:19.5

On this week's more to the story, historian Daniel Imovar.

0:23.1

We talk about the long-term consequences of Trump's impulsive foreign policy

0:27.6

and why the administration is tearing down the post-war international order

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