Trump's Immigration Policy, with Edward Alden (Transition 2025, Episode 9)

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

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🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Edward Alden, senior fellow at CFR and co-author of When the World Closed Its Doors: The Covid-19 Tragedy and the Future of Borders, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss Trump's proposed immigration policies and their likely effects on the economy. This episode is the ninth and final episode in a special TPI series on the U.S. 2025 presidential transition and is supported by the Carnegie Corporation of New York. Enter the CFR book giveaway by January 28, 2025, for the chance to win one of ten free copies of When the World Closed Its Doors by Edward Alden and Laurie Trautman. You can read the terms and conditions of the offer here. Mentioned on the Episode Edward Alden, The Closing of the American Border: Terrorism, Immigration, and Security Since 9/11 Edward Alden and Laurie Trautman, When the World Closed Its Doors: The COVID-19 Tragedy and the Future of Borders Alessandro Caiumi and Giovanni Peri, "Immigration's Effect on US Wages and Employment Redux," National Bureau of Economic Research Council on Foreign Relations, The Work Ahead: Machines, Skills, and U.S. Leadership in the Twenty-First Century Robert O. Keohane and Joseph S. Nye, Power and Interdependence: World Politics in Transition Anna Maria Mayda, Francesc Ortega, Giovanni Peri, Kevin Shih and Chad Sparber, "The Effect of the H-1B Quota on Employment and Selection of Foreign-Born Labor," National Bureau of Economic Research For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/trumps-immigration-policy-edward-alden-transition-2025-episode-9

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0:00.0	Welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyce Distinguished Senior Fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
0:12.0	This is the ninth and concluding episode in a special presidential transition series on the President's Inbox.
0:19.0	Since Election Day, I have been sitting down with experts to unpack
0:22.1	who will staff the Donald Trump administration and how it will likely approach the many foreign
0:26.8	policy challenges it faces. This week's topic is Trump's immigration policy.
0:44.7	With me to discuss how Donald Trump is likely to handle immigration matters is Edward Alden.
0:51.2	Ted is a senior fellow at the council and the Rosh Distinguished Visiting Professor at Western Washington University.
0:54.7	He has written extensively on U.S. economic competitiveness,
1:00.1	trade and immigration policy. His newest book, which was at least just last week,
1:06.2	and was co-written with Laurie Chapman, is when the world closed its doors, the COVID-19 tragedy,
1:14.2	and the future of borders. Ted is also the author of The Great Deportation of 2025, which recently appeared in foreign policy. Ted, thank you for joining me on the president's inbox. It's great to be here
1:19.2	with you, Jim. Thank you. Now, Ted, before we begin discussing Donald Trump's plans for U.S.
1:24.2	immigration policy, I want to let listeners know how they can win a free copy of
1:28.7	when the world closed its doors. To do so, they should go to cfr.org forward-leaning slash
1:35.7	giveaway. Let me repeat that, cfr.org forward-leaning slash giveaway. There they can read the terms
1:43.7	and conditions of the giveaway and register
1:45.6	their entry. The registration for the giveaway will remain open until January 27. After that, we will
1:52.3	select 10 names at random to receive a free copy of when the world closed its doors. If you are still
1:58.5	searching for a pen to write down this information, don't worry.
2:01.9	We have posted the link to the giveaway in the show notes for the president's inbox on cfr.org.
2:07.9	With those logistics out of the way, Ted, let's talk about Trump's plans for immigration.
2:13.7	Now, this is a pretty big topic, and we can talk about the border, we can talk about deportation,
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