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Andrea Bernstein, who's covering the Trump criminal trial in Lower Manhattan for NPR, is with us on this day off from the proceedings.

They've been taking Wednesdays off, and Andrea has been taking Wednesdays on to join us on this day off from the proceedings. They've been taking Wednesdays off, and

Andrea has been taking Wednesdays on to join us on the show. The drama this week has

revolved around the one main witness called by the defense, Attorney Rob Costello. And a lot of the

reporting that I've seen suggest Costello inadvertently did a lot more to convict Donald Trump than to acquit him.

But we'll see what Andrew thought from inside the courtroom.

And again, a basic reminder.

People usually call this the Stormy Daniels hush money case.

But the felony charges are actually for falsifying business records to cover up a hush money

payment to help him get elected president. That's the alleged crime.

Andrea Bernstein was co-host of WNYC's Trump Inc. podcast about the intersection of Trump's

business interests and the public interest. Also, the podcast will be wild about the events leading up

to January 6th and as author of the book, American oligarchs, the Cushners, the Trumps, and the

marriage of money and power. Hi, Andrea, thanks for doing another Wednesday off from the trial on with us.

Welcome back to the show. Hey, Brian. Great to speak to you again.

And listeners, we'll give you a shot at Andrea today if you have a good focused question about the trial, only about the trial for someone who's been in the courtroom. We can take a few

calls or texts for Andrea Bernstein, 212, 433, WNYC, 212, 433-9692.

So, Andrea, who's Rob Costello?

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