Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing out of the Bullwark. I'm here with Will Salton.

We're going to be talking today about one of the more egregious pardons, although Will makes a very valid case that it's not the most egregious pardon over the Thanksgiving break.

President Trump announced he was going to deliver a, quote, full and complete pardon to former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who is at the center of this

incredibly sweeping drug case. He's found guilty of kind of conspiring to import and distribute

enough cocaine to make everyone in the United States incredibly high and kill a bunch of people.

He was found to have been collaborating with El Chapo, using the military to cover it up and

threaten opponents.

It was a sprawling drug scheme.

And seemingly out of nowhere, Trump just announces, I mean, really out of nowhere,

he just announces that he's going to give the guy a pardon.

And then he was approached. Trump was approached about this on Air Force One on Sunday when he was returning from Mar-a-Lago, which is where he issued the pardon from. And he had this to say. The people of Honduras really thought he was set up and it was a terrible thing. He was the president of the country. And they basically said he was a drug dealer because he was the president of the country. And they said it was a

Biden administration set up. And I looked at the facts and I read them. What do you share that he was

set up and then he wasn't? When you take a look, I mean they could say that you take any country you want.

If somebody sells Trump's in that country, that doesn't mean you arrest the president and put him in jail for the rest of this.

That includes this country, okay, to be honest. I mean, if somebody does something wrong, you put the president of the country in jail.

They said it was a Biden set up.

It was a Biden administration set up.

Well, what do you make of this?

I mean, it's like hard to kind of put your head around all of it.

Okay.

First of all, Trump says that the people of Honduras told him to pardon this guy.

The people of Honduras did not tell him to pardon this guy, right?

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