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Business Daily

Trump's green retreat

Business Daily

BBC

News, Business

4.4796 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Earlier this year, President Donald Trump signed an executive order stopping subsidies for renewable energy sources like wind and solar power. He has called attempts to boost green energy in the US the "Green New Scam".

We head to Middletown, Ohio, where a hydrogen-powered furnace for the steel mill, which was subsidised under the Biden administration, has been cancelled under President Trump. Supporters of the new furnace say it would have made a much cleaner plant in the town and created many jobs.

We hear from residents, community leaders, and economists, and ask - what happens when industry clashes with politics?

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Presenter: Erin Delmore Producer: Nathalie Jimenez

(Picture: Cleveland-Cliffs Middletown Works in Middletown, Ohio, in 2024. Credit: Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.1

Hello and welcome to Business Daily from the BBC World Service.

0:10.1

I'm Erin Delmore.

0:11.4

Today, we're exploring a steel town in America's Rust Belt.

0:15.0

Not just any town.

0:16.3

This is Middletown, Ohio, and it's where U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance was born and raised.

0:21.6

I will never forget where I came from. Ladies and gentlemen, I came from Middletown, Ohio.

0:26.1

I am proud of it, and I will never forget where I came from.

0:29.3

But long before it was depicted in Vance's memoir, Hillbilly Elegie, it was best known as the home

0:34.8

of steel plant Middletown Works. That plant was recently slated for a big green upgrade that would have cut down on air pollution.

0:42.8

The nastiest smell. I mean, it'll get in your house, it burns your throat.

0:47.1

But not long after residents saw their most famous neighbor make his way to Washington,

0:51.6

that planned upgrade was put on hold.

0:54.0

Federal funds not only have been canceled that were once promised, but the reality that there

1:00.0

will probably be no more federal funds that will help transition to clean energy.

1:06.0

So if people in the town say they want clean energy and less pollution, why didn't they vote for it?

1:11.6

I think it depends on how we ask the question.

1:13.6

It's a story about big business.

1:16.6

If you ask the question, do you want to see more clean energy in your community and you are a right-leaning thinker, then you're going to say no.

1:25.6

Public health.

1:26.6

If you ask the question, do you believe that your children deserve to grow up

1:31.3

in communities without pollution, then the answer would be yes.

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