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You are listening to an art media podcast. I don't want to shock any of our listeners with any

kind of cynical Realpolitik talk, but it's just possible that not all of the

people in the IRGC are religious enthusiasts and naive believers. Some of them may have actually

decided kind of in it for power and money, and their calculation might flip to the point of,

well, let's see, which is better for me

being dead in a bunker or having millions of dollars in Switzerland and the Americans giving me a free

pass for all my past crimes? Hmm, hmm, Hmm. Hmm. It's 7 p.m. on Wednesday, March 4th here in New York City. It is 3.30 a.m. on Thursday, March 5th in Tehran, and it is 2 a.m. on Thursday, March 5th, in Israel,

as Israelis turn to a new day, and hopefully we'll have a quieter night. Before we start,

I am thrilled to share that on April 20th, I will be interviewing Rachel Goldberg-Polin at the

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