Trump's Former 'Fixer' Takes the Stand
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2024
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Lairn on WNYC. Good morning, everyone, in our spring membership drive, |
| 0:16.9 | trying to reach our goal of 10,000 donors. Thank you for being one if you can at WNYC.org. |
| 0:23.9 | Andrea Bernstein, who's covering the Trump criminal trial and Lower Manhattan for NPR, is with us on this day off from the proceedings. |
| 0:31.5 | You know they've been taking Wednesdays off, and Andrea has been taking Wednesdays on to join us on the show. |
| 0:36.6 | The drama this week, of course, has been the testimony of former Trump lawyer and fixer Michael |
| 0:42.4 | Cohen, and I'm really interested in getting Andrea's take because some of the analysis I've heard |
| 0:47.1 | elsewhere has been really contradictory. Remember, people usually call this the hush money case, |
| 0:52.5 | but the felony charges are actually for falsifying business records to cover up the hush money case, but the felony charges are actually for falsifying |
| 0:55.7 | business records to cover up a hush money payment to help them get elected president in 2016. |
| 1:02.6 | And Michael Cohen was at the center of these transactions, but did he pin them on Trump? |
| 1:08.2 | Also, yesterday there was the bizarre spectacle of the Speaker of the House of |
| 1:12.3 | Representatives and other members of Congress gathering outside the courthouse so they could basically |
| 1:18.2 | violate the judge's gag order on Trump's behalf, criticizing jurors and witnesses and people's family |
| 1:25.5 | members in a way the judge is concerned will put them |
| 1:28.4 | at risk of harm. But is it really legal to be somebody's gag order violation surrogate? |
| 1:34.9 | Andrew Bernstein, as many of you know, is co-host of WNIC's Trump Inc. podcast about the intersection |
| 1:41.8 | of Trump's business interests and the public interest. Also, the podcast will be |
| 1:46.7 | wild about the events leading up to January 6th and is author of the book American oligarchs, |
| 1:52.4 | the Kushners, the Trumps, and the marriage of money and power. Hi, Andrea, thanks for doing another |
| 1:57.9 | Wednesday off from the trial on with us. Welcome back to WNYC. |
| 2:02.0 | Hey, Ryan. Great to talk to you again. And listeners, if you have a question about the trial, we can take a few calls or texts. |
| 2:08.9 | I think some of this has been confusing and contradictory in the analysis you may have been seeing. |
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