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Trump’s foreign IOUs

Pod Save the World

Pod Save the World

Politics, News

4.825.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2020

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s taxes reveal foreign income and liabilities, why Armenia and Azerbaijan are at war, the White House’s efforts to bribe Sudan, politically-charged corruption charges in Pakistan, Europe’s Covid spike, the US threatens to close its embassy in Baghdad, new sanctions on Iran and Cuba, Bibi Netanyahu’s dirty laundry, why Yelp reviews are dangerous in Thailand and the story of a heroic rat. Then Ben’s interview with Ayad Akhtar, Pulitzer Prize winning playwright and author of the new novel Homeland Elegies, about what it means to be an American, and how global attitudes about the United States are affected by its foreign policy.

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0:00.0

[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

0:10.7

Welcome back to Pod Save the World, I'm Tommy Vittor.

0:12.7

I'm Ben Rhodes.

0:14.0

Ben, by the time people hear this episode, the debate will be over.

0:18.8

But we still have all this anxiety right now going into it.

0:22.2

And I'm not sure how to channel this appropriately for the listeners,

0:25.0

because I don't know, I'm not ready for this thing to happen.

0:28.8

Yeah, I mean, part of it's so odd too, is like just that nobody's kind of been

0:33.6

on a stage with Donald Trump in four years.

0:35.7

It's always a chem alone or him with a press into this.

0:39.1

Just the idea of like someone debating him is so far.

0:42.9

I mean, I remember with Obama in 2012, he was terrible in the first debate,

0:48.8

because he hadn't been challenged relentlessly on a stage for that period of time in four years.

0:55.2

Yeah.

0:56.2

No, doesn't like it.

0:57.2

But Trump, I mean, at least Biden, apparently has microscopic earpieces and steroids.

1:02.5

Yeah, I know.

1:04.4

Like, the earpiece thing is like an old canard that the drug testing is new and frankly creative.

1:09.3

I remember going to the 2012 foreign policy debate where at a Lin University in

1:14.4

Book of Retone, and that was the one where Obama just sneered at Romney and the lines.

1:19.6

We have fewer horses and bayonets.

1:21.6

Yeah, yeah.

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