Trump’s Five Keys to Success With Ukraine, Why Dems Aren’t Ready for 2028, the GOP’s Balancing Act

Next Up with Mark Halperin

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🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Mark opens today’s show with his patented reported monologue on Donald Trump’s strategy for Ukraine and Russia, laying out five pillars that sharply diverge from Joe Biden’s policies. From shifting the burden to Europe and aggressively driving peace talks, to accepting territorial compromise, wielding sanctions, and using high-pressure diplomacy, Mark explains why Trump’s approach could reset America’s role in the conflict and remake the global power map. Former chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, Marc Short, then joins to discuss the balance between loyalty to Trump and staying true to conservative principles. He reflects on how many traditional Republicans have navigating the Trump years and offers his take on foreign policy, the economy, and the party’s challenges heading into 2028. He also addresses Pence’s comments on President Trump’s decision to deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C. Finally, Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, explains why running for president is far more grueling than most candidates and advisers anticipate. She also shares her assessment of the Democratic field for 2028, with Gavin Newsom in the first tier by himself and a trio of governors and a surprise pick making up the second batch. Birch Gold: Text NEXT to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold American Financing: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-886-2026 or visit https://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Next - NMLS 182334, https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org

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0:00.0	If you're not here for Next Up, you're in the wrong place.
0:04.9	But if, in fact, you've come to see or here next up, you've done it.
0:08.7	Nexters, welcome in.
0:10.3	I'm Mark Halperin, editor-in-chief of the Live Interactive Video Platform 2Way and your host
0:14.5	to guide to everything that is next up in politics, media, and beyond.
0:18.8	Busy August for news, particularly related to Ukraine and Russia.
0:22.9	We'll talk about that today.
0:24.8	My reported monologue in a bit about what's going on with Donald Trump and what he's already achieved and what's left to get done.
0:30.8	Then Mark Short, he was the White House legislative affairs director and chief of staffed by his president Pence during the first Trump
0:38.5	administration currently board chair at advancing American freedom. He'll be here in just a moment.
0:44.3	And then Patty Sully-Sdoril, Democratic strategy, just one of the best I've ever covered and
0:48.1	widely respected within the party. She ran Hillary Clinton's campaign for president in 2008.
0:53.5	And she and I are going to talk about how it's harder to run for president as a Democrat than you probably think it is.
1:01.3	So we'll break that down what's going on.
1:03.3	But first, again, my reported monologue about what's going on with Donald Trump.
1:08.2	And my five keys to understanding what's going on with President Trump, Ukraine, and Russia.
1:13.4	First, Donald Trump is not Joe Biden.
1:17.0	Okay.
1:17.5	Joe Biden had a very particular attitude about how to get things done in Ukraine to repel Putin,
1:24.7	to restore peace and economic prosperity to the Ukrainians. And he failed. There's just
1:31.0	no doubt that, you know, President Trump would say he failed. Biden failed by not being intimidating
1:35.9	enough to encourage Putin to encroach into Ukraine. But then I don't know how long Joe Biden would
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