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🗓️ 17 October 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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This week we’re speaking to two Useful Idiots return guests: Mouin Rabbani, co-editor at Jadaliyya and non-resident fellow at the Center for Conflict and Humanitarian Studies, and human rights attorney Craig Mokhiber, who resigned from the United Nations over its failure to act on Gaza.
Useful Idiots: What is your response to Trump’s so-called peace plan?
Mouin Rabbani: Well, just to say it’s not a peace plan. It’s a proposal to achieve a ceasefire. If you look at the proposal closely, it doesn’t include any enforcement mechanisms, even for those elements that have been agreed. And most importantly, it doesn’t say anything about Palestinian rights. And therefore, if it’s entirely successful, it will at best take us back to October 6 [2023].
Craig Mokhiber: It’s not a peace plan. It’s not a plan for ending the conflict. It’s not a plan that responds to the genocide. It addresses none of the root causes of the situation in Palestine. It is absolutely lawless.
This was created in the dark, back rooms of Washington. It makes no reference to international law, and some of the provisions of the plan actually violate international law. Things like conditioning humanitarian aid, implicit threats of collective punishment if Hamas doesn’t agree to something, the explicit denial of Palestinian self-determination, and restrictions on political rights for some Palestinians. It tries to return to a situation where Palestinians have to negotiate for their human rights with their oppressors. And it fails to seek any accountability for Israeli crimes, including genocide.
This ceasefire has been repeatedly violated already by Israel. They immediately destroyed the water treatment plant, they killed several Palestinian civilians, and blocked some of the aid that’s supposed to be coming in.
It is a certain relief in terms of the amount of bombs and bullets that are flying in Gaza, it allows some aid in, and it has allowed for some Palestinian prisoners to be released from horrific Israeli torture camps. But beyond that piece of the ceasefire agreement, there is nothing here to celebrate.
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00:00 Intro
00:49 Obama and Marc Maron
11:49 Trump admits Miriam Adelson owns him
16:55 Antisemitism is "fine" when these people do it
21:27 Zionists cover "Sweet Home Alabama" (worse than you think)
24:51 Mouin Rabbani & Craig Mokhiber interview
25:19 Is Trump's "peace plan" a fraud?
45:12 Trump threatens to kill more
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm Katie Helper. |
| 0:07.0 | I'm Mary Matte. Thanks so much for being here. Our website is Useful Idiots Podcast.com. |
| 0:12.0 | Go there to support the show and get bonus content. On this week's show, we'll be hearing from two returning guests, Craig McIber and Moly Mubani, about the so-called Gaza ceasefire, |
| 0:22.9 | which really is just following the pattern of previous so-called ceasefires involving Israel, |
| 0:27.9 | where you cease and we fire, and that's what Israel is doing. |
| 0:31.0 | Israel is continuing to attack Gaza. |
| 0:33.1 | Israel is continuing to block aid into Gaza. |
| 0:35.6 | Israel is continuing to lie and deceive the public, |
| 0:39.7 | true to form. So we'll be talking to these two distinguished guests about that and a lot more. |
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| 1:42.3 | Do you want to tell people about it or do you want me to summarize? I'm sorry. I feel like I kind of wasted the audience's time. I went off on this |
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