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Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Jessica Tarlov. And my return guest today is Gail and Droke, backed by Popular Demand. He's the host of GD.

Politics here to make some sense of a huge newsweek. I feel like we didn't really have big news weeks for a little while. It was just like shutdown mania. And then, you know, when it rains, it pours. Gailen, thanks so much for joining me.

Thanks so much for having me. When it rains, it pours. Indeed. We got what? Like the end of the shutdown, the Jeffrey Epstein files, election results, more gerrymandering news.

I mean, it's truly a data nerd heaven. Absolutely. And also, Robin's new single is out. We were talking about that beforehand. We don't have to play it. Hugely important news. It is. And you loved it. Yes. Any thoughts? Will she, like, Tor again? I mean, I never saw Robin on tour, but I can't believe that there are people who don't know Robin because you met some of them yesterday.

Yeah, I was recording a podcast when her single dropped and I was in the recording studio with three people who were roughly my age who didn't know who Robin was. It was kind of shocking for me, but one of those, a live version of one of those bubble quizzes that you take

where you realize how much in your own world you are. But it was an experience for me to get out

of that world and realize that there are, in fact, young people who don't know Robin as somebody

who's seen her twice live, once in Millennium Park in Chicago and once in Barclays in Brooklyn, hard for me to imagine.

But, you know, part of being a good analyst is putting yourself in other people's shoes and trying to understand the world beyond yourself.

So maybe we'll try to do a little bit of that today.

Okay. All right. I'm down and would be excited if Robin came back to Millennium Park or Barclays. But let's go Epstein Files first. You know, there was, started with House Oversight Dems on Wednesday leaking out some new emails. There's a lot of back and forth, right, you know, saying you rejected a name. We know who that is.

One of the victims, Virginia Jafray, who said that Donald Trump was never untoward towards her.

So they basically said this is a big nothing burger. Then they dropped like 20,000 emails later in the day.

How are you making sense of the Epstein drama? Yeah. So my perspective on things like this is to generally try to figure out how much

Americans care about it and therefore how much it might impact politics.

And, you know, we just had a set of elections last week.

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