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The Beat with Ari Melber

Trump's Epstein failure haunts his second term

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Government, Ms Now, Versant, Versant Media, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

November 19, 2025; 6pm: MS NOW’s Ari Melber hosts The Beat and reports on Congress passing legislation to force the DOJ to release its Epstein files. The legislation now awaits Trump's signature. Plus, new reporting on ties between former Trump advisor Steve Bannon and Epstein. Michelle Goldberg, Michael Hirschorn, and Andrew Weissmann join.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the beat. I'm Ari Melbert reporting on the continuing fallout from Donald Trump's

0:04.3

waking nightmare. Congress forcing him to release the Epstein files that his administration

0:08.1

has been hiding. This is an overwhelming rebuke. It strips Donald Trump of the presidential

0:13.7

veto power because both parties overruled him. Where other presidents have vetoed bills,

0:19.6

they strongly oppose. We've covered that from

0:21.3

Bush to Obama. Keep in mind, under the rules, Trump cannot veto this because he lost so badly,

0:27.8

he lost that option as well. He is not really presidenting when it comes to the Epstein bill.

0:34.3

And that is why what we're also witnessing risks for Donald Trump a wider contagion for his

0:39.8

perceived and actual declining power in Washington. Republicans just saw they can defy him. Democrats found a way

0:46.1

to run the Congress instead of the Republican Speaker, who you see there like Trump was on the run

0:51.1

yesterday, making claims that actually were evaporating in real time,

0:56.6

including his claims that the Senate was going to make changes, which they didn't do.

0:59.8

Because like Trump, when it comes to the Epstein files, you don't have the votes.

1:05.3

That's how Hamilton was memorably scolded by the founding fathers in the play.

1:09.5

You don't have the votes, you don't have

1:11.7

the votes, you're going to need congressional approval, and you don't have the votes. Well,

1:17.3

this is Donald Trump's Hamilton test, and like Cabinet Battle One, he failed it. Let me show you,

1:24.8

departing from the art back to real new history, the living history this week, what it looked like when Trump didn't have the votes, not even one single Republicans standing by him in the Senate.

1:40.3

Just seconds ago, a landslide vote in the House of Representatives. The release of the Epstein

1:45.6

files has passed the House. A reckoning over the Epstein files on Capitol Hill. The Trump

1:51.5

presidency, as we have known it, is over. This was a nearly unanimous vote. No amount of arm

1:57.6

twisting by Donald Trump managed to stop or slow the passage of legislation

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