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Jason Furman, former economist inside the Obama administration, teaches a legendary econ class right now

at Harvard. And we're here to talk about a kind of insane Trump appointment to head

the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Donald Trump has nominated E.J. Anthony. I just want to read from his

bio at his current perch at the Heritage Foundation. He is 37 years old, so it must be a real hot shot

economist.

I'm going to start from the top, so you can understand what he believes are his chief qualifications in his bio. E.J. Anthony, Ph.D., is the chief economist and Richard Astor fellow in the Heritage

Foundation's Grover M. Herman Center for the federal budget. His work has been featured with a variety

of news outlets, including

Fox News and Fox Business, Wall Street Journal, Alan Hall, Bloomberg Daily Collar, National

Review, CNBC, Washington Times, The Washington Examiner, Wrightpart, the Federalist,

and others. So, his not a lot of peer-reviewed articles and scholarly journals, but he's made it into Breitbart and the Federalist with his work.

Jason, I guess we'll start with you.

On a skill of 1 to 10, how insane is this appointment?

It's probably a 9, and I'm trying to restrain myself.

Otherwise, I'll start, like, foaming at the mouth and yelling,

and I generally try to be a reasonable and balanced person,

but that's all being tested in the current moment.

So, I mean, tell me more. I mean, I look at this and I, you know, as a layperson who is

interested in economics, I think, okay, well, so the president fires the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because he doesn't like the jobs report.

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