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The Dispatch Podcast

Trump’s Deportations Are ‘Performance Art’ | Interview: John Bolton

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Jamie Weinstein is joined by John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations and Donald Trump’s onetime national security adviser, to discuss the Trump administration’s mass deportation program, the “loss of American prestige,” and the Signal saga. The Agenda: —“Loss of American prestige” on the world stage —How to negotiate with Greenland —The Soviet Union won —“The biggest trade deal in history” —Why does Trump attack our allies? —Groupchat-gate —Trump’s deportations are “performance art” —The "Free World" is gone The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.3

Welcome to the dispatch podcast.

0:30.2

I'm Jamie Weinstein.

0:31.5

My guest today is Ambassador John Bolton, a man who needs no introduction to the dispatch and a returning guest

0:39.7

for the Monday interview show. This is his first time on since the election of Donald Trump.

0:45.8

And we get into what he makes of Trump 2.0, what successes he hopes to see from the administration,

0:53.8

what he fears that the administration

0:55.9

will do and has done. We also talk about the signal chat controversy, what he thinks of it as

1:02.6

someone who has dealt with classified information, his entire life almost. And finally, we get into

1:09.1

what it is like to be a critic in Donald Trump 2.0,

1:13.6

what he fears Trump might do more than he's already done, and what he hopes Trump might not do.

1:21.6

So without further ado, I give you Ambassador John Bolton.

1:42.5

Ambassador John Bolton, welcome to the Dispatch podcast.

1:46.6

By to be well here. Mr. Ambassador, we've talked many times over the years.

1:48.6

This is an interesting moment to chat.

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