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🗓️ 11 September 2025
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Trump has declared a state of emergency in DC in his dictatorial zeal to militarize the streets of our nation's capital. However, the truth is that there IS NO EMERGENCY warranting Trump's declaration. In this podcast, Glenn speaks with someone who knows the streets of DC from policing there for 20 years. Former Metropolitan Police Officer Mike Fanone is not only one of the heroes who protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, 2021, but he also spent 20 years as an MPD officer serving the people of the District of Columbia. Mike and Glenn worked murder cases decades ago when he was a homicide prosecutor handling murder homicide cases in the courts of DC. Mike brings to the discussion an important perspective, as he was a DC cop when there was a LEGITIMATE crime emergency declaration in the 1990s. Mike explains how that situation was dramatically different from Trump's bogus emergency declaration.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. |
| 0:15.6 | Today, Glenn interviews former Metropolitan Police Officer Mike Fanon. |
| 0:28.6 | He not only defended the Capitol on January 6th, but he also spent 20 years as an officer on the streets of D.C. Glenn speaks with him next on Justice Matters. |
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| 1:09.2 | National Guard and, you know, what they're doing in the streets of D.C. |
| 1:13.4 | I'd be curious to know as somebody who worked the streets of D.C. for 20 years, you know, |
| 1:18.8 | what kind of concerns do you have? |
| 1:20.7 | I think we just saw a big old armored vehicle, National Guard vehicle, T-bone, a civilian car. You know, what are some of the |
| 1:29.4 | concerns you have about Donald Trump sending in the National Guard to police the streets of D.C. |
| 1:36.0 | to do the job that y'all did and y'all did well? Yeah, I mean, first, when it comes to specifically |
| 1:43.1 | the National Guard, not the additional federal resources, but the National Guard themselves. |
| 1:48.1 | Like, I was telling your audience before we got cut off. |
| 1:51.6 | I remember in early 2000s when I was first starting my career at the Metropolitan Police Department, we had an actual crime emergency. |
| 2:05.3 | It was declared by Chief Charles Ramsey at the time. |
| 2:14.5 | And I remember because we were literally experiencing multiple homicides not weekly, but daily. |
| 2:23.1 | We were having shootings not daily, but hourly. And so there was a real need for some type of supplemental, you know, resource to come in and help the Metropolitan Police Department tackle this |
| 2:31.2 | problem. So we brought in, you know, several hundred National Guardsmen, |
| 2:35.0 | and they were unarmed, and their job was high visibility in high crime areas, and also they were |
| 2:43.5 | taking over some of the lower priority responsibilities of the police department, like directing traffic. |
| 2:50.2 | And so that freed up resources |
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