Trump’s Civil Fraud Trial
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 12 January 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
On January 11, 2024, Donald J. Trump arrived in a New York courtroom for closing arguments in the civil fraud case against the former president, his company, and his adult sons. The suit, brought by the state’s attorney general Letitia James, alleges that Trump and his company misled lenders about the former president’s net worth in order to secure better business deals. The case is not Trump’s only legal trouble, but it’s one that could have a consequential impact for his family business and the image he has crafted for himself as a richer-than-rich, deal-making business man.
What are the legal issues at stake? What might Trump argue on appeal? And how could the outcome affect Trump’s finances?
To talk it all through, Lawfare Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent Anna Bower spoke with Tristan Snell, former New York Assistant Attorney General and lead prosecutor in the Trump University fraud case. Tristan is also the author of a forthcoming book called, “Taking Down Trump.”
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| 0:27.0 | and the aftermath. |
| 0:30.0 | Trump has tried to argue that that's extreme, it's never been done before, it's |
| 0:37.6 | unprecedented, he's dead wrong. That is completely untrue. It happens |
| 0:41.6 | actually on a fairly regular basis. |
| 0:43.7 | Look, does it happen all the time? |
| 0:46.0 | No, but that's because what's also kind of, I wouldn't say unprecedented, but rare perhaps, |
| 0:51.6 | is how big of a fraud this was. You don't see frauds this big every day, |
| 0:56.1 | so you don't see companies being stripped of their corporate charters every day, but the |
| 1:01.1 | legislature put that provision |
| 1:02.9 | into place for a reason, and you can make a very good argument |
| 1:06.2 | that that reason is here. |
| 1:07.5 | It's now. |
| 1:08.1 | This is the case that justifies it. |
| 1:11.0 | I'm Anna Bauer, Law Fair Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent and this is the Law Fair Podcast January 12th, 2024. |
| 1:19.0 | On January 11th, 2024, Donald J. Trump arrived in a New York courtroom for closing arguments |
| 1:26.6 | in the civil fraud case brought against the former president, his company, and his adult |
| 1:31.5 | sons. The suit brought by the state's attorney general Latisha James |
| 1:36.5 | alleges that Trump and his company misled lenders about the former president's |
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