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🗓️ 8 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Ler. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, September 8th. |
| 0:14.3 | Brian Ler on WNYC, we'll check in now as we've been all year, on the state of the legal battles over President |
| 0:21.3 | Trump's campaign to take as much government power as he can for himself. The big picture of this, |
| 0:27.3 | of course, goes beyond individual policy disputes to the essential question of whether he's |
| 0:32.2 | trying to turn the U.S. into less of a democracy and more of an authoritarian state. There was, as you've been hearing, Trump's post over the weekend, |
| 0:40.4 | showing him as the Robert Duval character from the movie Apocalypse Now, |
| 0:45.1 | with Chicago in flames in the background, the words Chicapolips now, |
| 0:50.4 | and the chilling language that Chicago is about to find out why they call it the Department of War. |
| 0:56.1 | That was an actual post from the President of the United States. And all that only adds to the |
| 1:01.2 | concern that people like Illinois Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker had already expressed last |
| 1:06.9 | week. This is a part of his plan to do something really nefarious, which is to interfere with |
| 1:12.6 | elections in 2026. He wants to have troops on the ground. So we'll touch on democracy in the |
| 1:19.5 | 26 elections, which Pritzker raises there, and the possible Chicago deployment, like the ones in |
| 1:25.9 | L.A. and D.C., are wedge issues, right, using |
| 1:29.6 | means that might be authoritarianism to address concerns that are real and to possibly build |
| 1:38.2 | support in enough of the electorate for that consolidation of power. Here's Trump yesterday |
| 1:43.7 | on his fiery Chicago Post. |
| 1:46.9 | We're not going to war. We're going to clean up our city. We're going to clean them up so they don't |
| 1:51.4 | kill five people every weekend. That's not war. That's common sense. |
| 1:56.0 | Now that has definitely happened in other countries in recent years, the populist and electoral |
| 2:00.7 | route to authoritarianism |
| 2:03.4 | through issues that most of the people are on the side of the leader about. And remember Trump said |
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