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Trump's Big Win

City Journal Audio

Manhattan Institute

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.7657 Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Fred Bauer joins Brian Anderson to discuss the lessons of the 2024 presidential election. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City

0:20.2

Journal. Joining me on today, the editor of City Journal.

0:21.3

Joining me on today's show is Fred Bauer. Fred writes regularly for City Journal on politics,

0:27.1

political campaigns, other issues. His writing has also appeared in National Review, Unheard,

0:33.3

and The Atlantic. He joins us today to talk about some of his recent articles for us, especially

0:39.5

a pre-election piece, a tale of two coalitions, which described the voter support and strategies

0:45.5

that the Trump and Harris campaigns were pursuing, and his post-election commentary, a political

0:51.3

realignment which analyzed Donald Trump's stunning victory Tuesday night. So, Fred,

0:56.7

thanks very much for joining us. Thanks for having me on. So, you know, both the media,

1:01.1

pollsters, or at least some pollsters, had told Americans for weeks to expect a very close election,

1:07.2

but on Tuesday, Trump won not just clearly, but decisively.

1:12.2

Even some who had picked him to win were surprised by the extent of the electoral college

1:16.7

victory and the margins of his victory in terms of developing new areas of support in the

1:23.3

electorate.

1:24.3

So what in your view are the characteristics that led you to describe this in your

1:28.6

city journal piece as a realigning election? Yeah, well, one of the funny things about 2024 is that it's both a

1:34.7

very expected and very unexpected campaign. And I think one of those unexpected things about Tuesday

1:41.0

night was that Trump did better than his polling would vindicated.

1:45.5

Polls consistently have underestimated Trump. They did in 2016. They did in 2020. And I guess they

1:50.5

did it again in 2024. So while the outcome surprised many people how quickly it was decided.

1:55.4

The fact that there was a polling miss in Trump's favor is actually in someone's what you'd expect, I suppose.

1:59.5

But I think in what I, in the C Journal piece, I was thinking about this, what I call this

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