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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Trump’s Big, Beautiful Bill Is Great for the "Stealthy Wealthy"

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The tax and spending bill passed by House Republicans last week is the sort of bill that does so many different things that even budget experts could be forgiven for not realizing just how many different parts of the economy it will change. In the realm of workers' comp, the bill would eliminate taxes on overtime pay and tips. In terms of families, it would create new $1,000 savings accounts for children and give parents an extra $500 per year per child, in the form of an expanded child tax credit. In the realm of health and the culture wars, it would ban the use of Medicaid funds for gender-affirming care and cut funding for Planned Parenthood. In the realm of climate, it would claw back half a trillion dollars of investments in wind, solar, geothermal, batteries, nuclear power, clean hydrogen, and electric vehicle purchases. In the realm of defense, it would increase spending by over $100 billion on shipbuilding, air and missile defense, immigration enforcement, and border security. But judging strictly by the sheer dollar amount of the provision, this bill is really about three big things. Number one, it extends a multitrillion-dollar tax cut on corporate and individual income. Number two, it reduces federal spending on two major government programs by a combined $1 trillion: Medicaid, the government health-care program for those with low income, and SNAP, or federal spending on food stamps. And number three, because of the mismatch I just told you about, between the tax cuts and the spending cuts, it will increase the national debt by several trillion dollars over the next 10 years. Today, we have two guests. First, the University of Chicago economist Eric Zwick joins to talk about the corporate tax cut. And second, to understand how to think about the debt picture, I talk to Maya MacGuineas, president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. Host: Derek Thompson Guests: Eric Zwick and Maya MacGuineas Producer: Devon Baroldi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The tax and spending bill passed by the House Republicans last week is the sort of law that does so many different things that even budget experts, I think, could be forgiven for not

1:01.9

realizing just how many different parts of the economy it's going to change.

1:07.1

In the realm of worker compensation, this is a bill that's going to eliminate taxes on overtime

1:12.7

pay and tips.

1:14.4

For our kids, it will create new $1,000 savings accounts for children and give parents an extra

1:19.7

$500 per year per child in the form of an expanded child tax credit.

1:25.4

In the realm of health and culture wars, it will ban Medicaid funds for

1:29.7

transgender care for adults and cut funding for Planned Parenthood. In the realm of climate, it will

1:35.3

claw back half a trillion dollars in tax credits for wind, solar, geothermal, batteries, nuclear power,

1:42.5

clean hydrogen, and electric vehicle purchases. In the realm

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