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Okay. Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes.

On this week's roundtable, Washington, D.C., crime, and Donald Trump's proposal to federalize policing in the nation's capital.

Also, is the U.S. marching towards state capitalism? And finally, a big picture look at Ukraine and Russia ahead of the Trump-Pooten summit. What would be a good outcome for the United States?

What would be a good outcome for Ukraine? And what would be a good outcome for the world?

I'm joined today by my dispatch colleagues Jonah Goldberg and Mike Warren and

Megan McArdle from the Washington Post. Let's get to it. If you follow the news at all over the

past week, you have gotten probably two different, very different descriptions of Washington, D.C.

And the day-to-day reality here in the nation's capital.

If you've listened to Donald Trump in his press conferences or in the things that his supporters

have said, you see Washington, D.C. as sort of a hellscape with crime on every corner,

people being mugged, violent crime, murders through the roof, and the federal government

needing to come in and fix the problem. If you have been listening to Democrats and many denizens

of Washington, D.C., you've heard on the other hand that crime is at a near 30-year low, and really

things are pretty good in Washington, D.C.

And this federal intervention that Donald Trump proposed and is now executing is unnecessary

and maybe dangerous.

Johnny, you live in Washington, D.C.

You've been here for a long time.

Who's right?

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