The Right-Wing Revolt Against Supporting Israel | Interview: Curt Mills

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🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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What happens when America’s Middle East policy collides with conservative skepticism? Jamie Weinstein goes head-to-head with Curt Mills, executive director of The American Conservative, to unpack the politics, power plays, and high-stakes history behind U.S.–Israel relations. The Agenda: —Why some on the right don’t back Israel —Israel-Iran tensions —Israel’s endgame in the region —How U.S. politics gets shaped from abroad —The problem with “forever wars” —Epstein, Mossad, and the right-wing connection The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and weekly livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:32.9	Jamie Weinstein. My guest today is Kurt Mills. He is executive director of the American
0:39.1	Conservative magazine. He is a representative of what you might call the Tucker Carlson
0:45.0	Wright or the American Conservative right or the Steve Bannon right, whatever you want to
0:49.2	call it these days. We brought him on to give what that world is talking about, which is, I think, probably
0:55.3	different from the dispatchian world. I was a little bit mean to him over the last probably
1:00.5	month or so on Twitter, so I thought I'd have him on the podcast to have these conversations
1:05.9	in real life. They're frustrating at times. We'll let you determine whether he elides or answers directly
1:13.6	some of the questions we have there, or perhaps I was misunderstanding in some instances. But I think
1:19.3	you're going to find this one. Interesting. It's certainly a worldview that probably is not
1:23.5	heard too often in these quarters. So without further ado, I give you Mr. Kurt Mills.
1:43.6	Kurt Mills, welcome to the dispatch podcast. Thanks for having it, man.
1:47.0	Well, Kurt, this is our second attempt at this. Last time, a few weeks ago, my internet failed in my attempt to do this. And then you went off traveling for a little bit and finally able to do this. So I really appreciate you joining. As I mentioned,
2:03.4	the beginning of our last failed attempt, I probably have some mean tweets about you online and I felt,
2:08.6	well, might as well have you on the podcast and talk about what I think is a very different view than
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