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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Trump, Robert Mueller, and Obstruction of Justice

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Barack, Washington, Wickenden, News, Obama, Politics, Wnyc, Lizza, President

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2018

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In June, President Trump ordered the firing of Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. He changed his mind when Don McGahn, the White House counsel, threatened to resign. Jeffrey Toobin joins Dorothy Wickenden to discuss Trump's growing legal vulnerabilities.

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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

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It's Friday, January 26th.

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I'm Dorothy Wiccenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

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Last June, President Trump ordered the firing of Robert Mueller, the special counsel

1:05.4

in charge of the Russia investigation, and Don McGahn, the White House counsel, threatened

1:10.2

to resign. Earlier this week,

1:12.8

Trump tried to project a sense of confidence about the investigation. When asked by reporters

1:17.6

whether he'd meet with Mueller, he responded, I'm looking forward to it, actually. You want to?

1:22.7

You have a date set? Here's a story. Just so I understand. There's been no collusion whatsoever.

1:26.9

There's no obstruction whatsoever.

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And I'm looking forward to it.

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At Davos this morning, Trump dismissed the reports that he wanted to fire Mueller as fake news.

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Jeffrey Tubin joins me to talk about what the latest developments in the Russia investigation indicate about the president's legal vulnerabilities.

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