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The Mother Jones Podcast

Trump Put a Target on Our Backs: Trans Americans Fight Back

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

Scoops, Investigations, News, Journalism, Elections, Politics

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2018

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

This week, trans listeners share candid stories about life under Trump. Sarah McBride, national press secretary for Human Rights Campaign, reveals the whiplash of working for Barack Obama, the most trans-inclusive president in history, only to be targeted aggressively by Trump in the years since. Ashley Scott, a transgender veteran of the Iraq War, tells us what's at stake as the administration escalates efforts to ban transgender people from the military. And while it's been a trying time, transgender listeners also share stories about solidarity, hope, and what it takes to win at this critical time in the history of LGBTQ rights.

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0:00.0

This is the Mother Jones Podcast. I'm Jamila King in New York.

0:05.0

On today's show, when the government decides to screw with your life, seemingly just for the sake of it.

0:20.0

After Donald Trump's election, I think like many folks in so many communities,

0:26.0

I had a crisis of faith.

0:28.0

What it's like when there's an administration-wide effort to single you out, curb your rights, even erase your identity.

0:37.0

Prejudice that again was always there, it's been emboldened.

0:40.0

Inside the trans rights movement at this critical moment for its future.

0:45.0

They can legislate and in some cases mandate discrimination in restrooms.

0:48.8

It becomes the closest thing to a silver bullet to legislating that community out of public life.

0:53.6

The fear and the fight.

0:55.4

You know, it kind of makes you think, okay,

0:56.9

this was a dream that I had that we were able to be ourselves,

1:01.6

but now we can't. Stories for Mother Jones listeners and readers.

1:05.0

That's all coming up.

1:07.0

There's a chilling phrase of former colleague of ours, Adam Surwer, who now works at the Atlantic,

1:18.8

came up with to describe one of the biggest lessons from the last two years of Trump. The cruelty is basically this.

1:35.0

Trump's policies help his supporters rejoice in the anguish of others.

1:42.2

And there's evidence for Adam's argument everywhere.

1:45.0

Here's Adam.

1:46.0

So the basic idea is that when people collectively perform acts of cruelty,

1:52.0

they are bonded to each other by that act. And what

1:57.6

Donald Trump has done is taking this to a national political level and those acts of cruelty against those people are

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