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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

Trump Press Sec Spin Implodes as Fresh Boat Bombing Horrors Rattle GOP

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

President Trump’s illegal boat bombings just got even worse. We’ve now learned that after demolishing a boat allegedly carrying drug smugglers in September, two survivors were left behind, and they were both blown apart in a second strike. That’s probably a war crime. On Monday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt struggled mightily to spin this as perfectly lawful. But all she revealed is how hard it is to defend all this when actual facts are known. Meanwhile, the latest turn in this saga is clearly rattling some Republicans, who feel forced to appear as if they want to exercise more oversight. We talked to Jennifer Rubin, editor-in-chief of The Contrarian, about her good new piece on this latest fiasco. She explains why we should take GOP angst over the bombings seriously, why people inside the chain of command should fear they’re on the hook for illegal acts, and what it will really take to impose accountability.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.

0:16.4

I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

0:31.4

President Trump's illegal boat bombings in the Caribbean Sea just got much worse.

0:37.1

We've now learned that after demolishing a boat allegedly carrying drug smugglers in September, two survivors were

0:39.2

left behind, and they were both blown apart in a second strike. This is probably a war crime.

0:47.1

White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt faced reporters' questions about this on Monday and

0:52.3

tried to spin all of it as perfectly lawful.

0:55.5

But all she ended up revealing is how hard it is for the administration to justify its acts

1:01.0

when actual facts about them are known. We're working through all this with Jennifer Rubin,

1:06.7

co-founder and editor-in-chief of the contrarian who has a good piece laying all this out.

1:11.4

Jen, great to have you back on. It's great to be heard, Greg. So here's what we know. The Washington

1:17.3

Post reports that on September 2nd, after the U.S. blew up a boat carrying 11 people

1:22.9

allegedly smuggling drugs, a live drone feed then showed two survivors in the water clinging to

1:29.3

the wreckage. Then a second strike was ordered, which blew the men apart in the water.

1:35.2

This is a blatant, reprehensible violation of the laws of war. Jen, I wanted to get your reaction

1:40.6

just to these facts. Well, two things. First of all, Pete Hegseth had previously

1:47.5

made an assertion that we were to give no quarter, which is generally considered to be,

1:54.4

take no prisoners, kill everyone. That is in and of itself a blatantly illegal act. The second issue is it's not clear we're even

2:04.6

in a war and you need a war in order to have a war crime. The reason we're arguably not in a war is

2:13.2

number one, Congress is not declared a war, And number two, there is no evidence whatsoever that these

2:20.0

people on boats are armed or in an armed conflict with the United States or presenting any kind of

2:27.2

imminent threat. What that means is if we're not even at war, then the unjustified killing of another human being is murder.

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