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The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Trump Praises Chuck On Trump Social But Missed The Point + Trump Was A “God of New York” Before He Was President

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Chuck Todd

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4.12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

Chuck Todd gives his reaction to Trump praising him on Truth Social after missing the context of Chuck's comments, then is joined by author Jonathan Mahler to discuss "The Gods of New York", his new book documenting the rise of Trump and others in 1980's New York City.

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0:00.0

Hello there, happy Thursday. Welcome to another episode of the Chuck Toddcast. I hope you enjoyed the two-parts, sort of wonky, if you will, episode that we dropped on Wednesday, focusing really all things having to do that are derivatives of Trump's temporary takeover of Washington, D.C.,

0:22.7

and sort of what he should be focused on what he isn't, you know, one conversation about the fraught nature of using the military and domestic policing and why that's likely going to be a huge mistake.

0:34.0

And if it is expanded even more than what he's doing how that that is likely to be

0:39.9

a bad outcome for the future of the military but also the the the fact that we do have a crisis

0:46.6

of policing in america and in what i thought the second episode the second part two of one's

0:52.6

episode i hope focuses the mind here that

0:55.4

if we sort of treated solving murders in this country, sort of as the broken windows theory

0:59.5

of, of, of, of policing, meaning if you, you know, if you make it a priority to solve

1:07.8

murder cases, not let 50% of them essentially go unsolved. You make that a priority.

1:12.8

I promise you in every community over time, you will understand, you will find patterns and you'll

1:18.5

likely have some dramatic declines in your crime rate in various cities. So it's a shame that

1:24.7

that isn't the North Star, right? That instead it's sort of this sort of visual way that Trump, you know, it's with this is yet another example, right? Where the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the question is, the, the, the know, you want, you don't want to deal with, you don't want to see the homeless on the street.

1:47.4

But the question is, how do you deal with the homeless?

1:49.0

And are you going to do something that's humane or are you going to do something that's inhumane and things like that?

1:54.4

So, but it's too bad.

1:57.1

He doesn't view this through the lens of the larger crisis that, hey, we need more police officers in America. Hard stop. We need better training of police officers in America. Hard stop. Anyway. But I referenced that because today's episode is going to be a little more political, a little more cultural, a little more zeitgeist. Got an incredible guest today. Jonathan Mahler, who is the author of a new book called Gods of New York.

2:20.7

It's essentially the sequel to the Bronx is Burning.

2:24.3

It is about New York City, circa 1986 to 1989.

2:30.4

The cast of characters that's written about guys like Donald Trump and Al Sharpton and Ed

2:37.3

Koch and Rudy Giuliani. It's a it really is in many cases. It's in some ways the origin

2:44.3

story of of sort of Donald Trump's transition from just being trying to be a celebrity businessman to

2:52.7

cultural figure as well. But it's not just that. He takes the book through the prism of

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