Okay, joining me today on IHIP News is Tom Steyer, an investor, climate activist, and progressive Democratic candidate for governor of California.

How are you today?

Great, Jennifer. Just great.

Okay. You're a billionaire. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows who all the billionaires

are. And I have a theory about billionaires. And I think that they all are suffering from

some sort of like psychosis. They all seem nuts. They all seem absolutely bat-shit crazy. So Tom, are you suffering from this

billionaire psychosis? Are you a crazy person? So let me say this, Jennifer. I'm going to start with

no, but of course I'm not objective about it. Look, I didn't inherit any money. I started a business in one room with no windows.

It worked out well.

I walked away from it 14 years ago, leaving billions of dollars on the table.

And my wife and I took a pledge that will give the money away while we're alive.

So any money that I made from business is going to go to the progressive causes that I'm talking about in my run for governor.

And we've been doing it for 14 years for me full time, but Kat's been doing it forever.

And I was doing it when I was running in a business.

So let me say this.

I think if you're addicted to money, you are bad shit crazy. I go along with that. And I think it's critical. And I think that Catherine and I aren't addicted to money. In fact, we're addicted to getting rid of it in the ways that have the most positive impact. And I don't think that's bad shit crazy. And I think it's exactly in line with the way I was brought up.

My mom was a school teacher in Harlem.

And then when she retired from being the public schools, she taught in prison.

My dad was a lawyer.

He worked.

He was in the Navy.

And after World War II, they drafted him to be one of the prosecutors of the Nazis

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