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Woman's Hour

Trump one year on, Family estrangement, Testing on pregnant women, Caroline Mitchell

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

We are a year into US President Trump's second term. He says he will tell European leaders "we have to have" Greenland at this week's forum in Davos, Switzerland and impose tariffs if they oppose him. Trump regularly hailed himself as the anti-war president on the campaign trail - and he's described himself since as the "president of peace" - but there are some who accuse him of waging a "war on women" since taking office. So, after a year back in the White House, how have the policies of President Trump’s administration impacted women? Nuala McGovern is joined by Anne McElvoy, an executive editor at Politico and Jennifer Ewing, Spokesperson for Republicans Overseas UK.

Brooklyn Peltz Beckham, the eldest son of the Beckhams, has said that he is not in touch with his family and does not want to reconcile with them. We don’t all live our family lives on social media, but most of us do have moments when we question whether our relationships with them are good for us. How do you know when you’ve reached the point when the right thing to do could be to walk away? Eilidh Dorgan and psychotherapist Dr Sara Young discuss.

More than 90% of medicines have never been tested in pregnancy, leaving millions of women worldwide facing an impossible choice, go without treatment, or take medication you’re not certain is safe for your baby. The World Health Organisation is preparing to work with scientists, doctors and drug developers on what could be the biggest shift in decades, rethinking whether pregnant women should take part in drugs trials. Nuala talks to Martina Penazzato from the Science for Health Department at the World Health Organization (WHO) and Dr Teesta Dey, Maternal Technical Consultant at the World Health Organization and a Maternal Health Researcher at the University of Liverpool.

Caroline Mitchell spent almost 10 years working for the police, including as a detective in the Criminal Investigation Department, before becoming a full-time writer. Her latest novel, The Ice Angels, has tinges of the Nordic-noir genre and is the first of a series featuring Elea, a Finnish detective whose daughter went missing 10-years earlier. She tells Nuala about the importance of writing for her and why the cityscape of Lincoln and Finland feeds into her work.

This programme has been edited since broadcast.

Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Andrea Kidd

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:09.5

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0:11.6

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0:12.1

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0:16.9

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0:38.6

We'll dissect the decadent life of Philippe Duke-Dolion with Tom Allen. I've often tried to pretend I'm an aristocrat and being very quickly knocked down. And there'll be so much more with comedians like Olga Koch, Mike Mosniak and Rihelina. I'm excited. You're dead to me. The comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:45.5

Hello, this is Newell McGovern and you're listening to The Woman's Hour podcast. Hello and welcome to the program.

0:59.6

Well, Donald Trump is on his way to the Alpine Town of Davos for the World Economic Forum. We are going to be there to examine how this term of his presidency has affected the lives of women on the anniversary of his second inauguration.

1:07.2

And although Mr Trump is grabbing the headlines, the most red story on the BBC website this morning is about Brooklyn Peltz Beckham.

1:11.2

The eldest son of the Beckham says he does not want to reconcile with his family.

1:16.0

Part of his statement was the following. I have been controlled by my parents for most of my life.

1:21.7

I grew up with overwhelming anxiety. For the first time in my life since stepping away from my family,

1:26.8

that anxiety has disappeared. We're going to be speaking about family estrangement and I'd like to know from you,

1:33.1

if you are or where estranged from a parent or from your family, did stepping away make a difference? How? You can of course be anonymous. To get in touch with the program, to text is 84844

1:40.5

on social media where at BBC Women's Are or you can email us through our website.

1:45.6

For a WhatsApp message or a voice note, the number is 0-3700-100-444.

1:51.8

Also today, we'll discuss what the World Health Organization is calling a generational change.

1:57.9

Their plans to include pregnant women in drug trials.

2:02.6

And the author Caroline Mitchell, with her latest novel, The Ice Angels. She will be with us. It's set in Finland and Lincoln.

2:09.3

But let us begin. We are a year into President Trump's second term. President Trump has said he

2:15.2

will tell European leaders we have to have Greenland at this week's forum in Davos, Switzerland,

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