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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Trump on Trial — Again

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

After the insurrection at the nation's capitol on January 6th, the House of Representatives impeached Donald Trump for a second time. The only article charges him with high crimes and misdemeanors for inciting a riot. There's no shortage of evidence backing up that claim, but the politics make it an open question if the senate will convict.  Guest: Dahlia Lithwick, host of Slate’s Amicus podcast  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So here we are, Impeaching Donald Trump, one more time.

0:09.0

Do you have a sense of deja vu right now?

0:12.0

None.

0:13.0

Ha!

0:14.0

Slate's Dalilithwick has always been my impeachment buddy.

0:18.0

So yesterday, I called her up and asked her to give me an impeachment preview.

0:23.0

Again, I have no sense of deja vu both because a year ago

0:28.0

is like 10-coffillion glacial ages.

0:31.0

Like, I'm trying to remember how I felt the night before the impeachment trial in the Senate a year ago,

0:39.0

and I can't even recall.

0:41.0

Also, it was a totally different enterprise, right?

0:45.0

I think at the time Democrats were trying to explain this unbelievably complicated arcane conspiracy theory

0:53.0

with 100 players and all these witnesses, and now it's the opposite, right?

0:59.0

Like, it's like, rule tape.

1:01.0

Everybody saw it.

1:03.0

It's not complicated at all.

1:05.0

Last month, Dalia interviewed the lawyer who helped lead the House impeachment proceedings the first time around.

1:13.0

She wanted to know how he saw this sequel.

1:17.0

He just sounded as though the inexorable lesson he learned from 1.0

1:25.0

is that it's just not illegal proceeding, and that he had taken years of history

1:32.0

having prosecuted the mob, having prevailed in big mob trials and big white-collar conspiracy trials,

1:40.0

that he went into this proceeding thinking it was illegal proceeding and walked away realizing it was politics all the way down.

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