Trump officials finally start to break with him
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen
Brian Tyler Cohen
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🗓️ 15 March 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Trump’s administration officials finally start to break with the president. Brian interviews Illinois governor JB Pritzker, congressman Jared Moskowitz, Democratic candidate for Texas governor Gina Hinojosa, and Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes.
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| 0:00.0 | Trump's administration officials finally start to break with the president, and I've got four |
| 0:04.9 | interviews, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, Congressman Jared Moskowitz, Arizona Secretary of State |
| 0:09.4 | Adrian Fontes, and Democratic candidate for Texas governor, Gina Inahosa. I'm Brian Taylor Cohen, |
| 0:14.1 | and you're listening to No Lie. |
| 0:18.0 | A pretty stunning turn of events as even Trump's closest allies, the people he handpicked expressly because they would tow the line on literally anything that he said or did. |
| 0:28.1 | They're slowly starting to show signs of breaking with the president, something that most of us, and frankly, Trump himself, likely never thought would happen. |
| 0:35.0 | For example, Politico just published a story with the headline, |
| 0:38.4 | Vance was skeptical voice in White House on Iran strikes. To be clear, that story does not get written |
| 0:44.8 | unless J.D. Vance wants it to get written. That was very obviously placed by someone on Vance's team, |
| 0:50.1 | recognizing how much of a disaster this war already is, and Vance positioning himself for 2028 as like the sole guy in the room |
| 0:57.8 | who wanted to avoid getting us sucked into a war, which of course is complete bullshit. |
| 1:02.1 | In reality, not only was Vance not that guy, |
| 1:04.8 | but he was among the voices angling to go bigger in Iran. |
| 1:07.9 | I'm going to read an excerpt from The New York Times. |
| 1:10.4 | Few in the president's inner circle voiced opposition to military action. Even vice president J.D. Vance, a long time skeptic of American military intervention in the Middle East, argued in a White House Situation Room meeting that if the U.S. was going to hit Iran, it should, quote, go big and go fast, according to people familiar with his remarks. In other words, Vance is, of course, |
| 1:29.3 | just as culpable as anyone else, but he can read the writing on the wall, right? He can |
| 1:33.7 | see the polls, like the one showing that this is the single least popular war in modern |
| 1:38.4 | American history at its outset. He can watch the coverage, which is overwhelmingly negative. |
| 1:42.8 | He can see oil prices surging and |
| 1:44.5 | gas prices rising. And he probably remembers how the people who pushed us into Iraq are viewed |
| 1:49.5 | after the fact, meaning he needs some image rehab and he's wasting no time waiting like not even |
| 1:55.3 | two weeks before he starts planning stories in Politico suggesting that he's the one guy in the room |
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