Trump, Netanyahu at odds / Elusive Iran deal
Sources & Methods
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🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Host Scott Detrow steps in for Mary Louise Kelly again this week. He speaks with NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myre and NPR White House Correspondent Franco Ordoñez about the current friction between the two leaders, and where pain points have come up in the past. Also, where the elusive deal with Iran stands.
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| 0:00.0 | He's got some concerns that aren't necessarily Trump's concerns, and you see this divergence right now. |
| 0:07.1 | President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu started the war with Iran together, |
| 0:12.6 | but they have very different ideas about how to end it. |
| 0:15.4 | How is that straining their relationship? |
| 0:17.6 | This is sources and methods from NPR. |
| 0:21.5 | I'm Scott Detrow in from Mary Louise Kelly. It is Thursday, which means we are diving into |
| 0:25.8 | the week's biggest national security stories with NPR reporters who are out there covering them. |
| 0:31.0 | Joining me here in the studio is White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Hey, Franco. Hey, Scott. |
| 0:35.1 | And from Tel Aviv, whereby the looks of things, he's in a much |
| 0:38.2 | sunnier place than we are is national security correspondent Greg Marri. Hey, Greg. Lots of sun and very warm. Hey, Scott. All right. So always good to timestamp this conversation, especially given all of the news we've been talking about the last few weeks. It's about noon here in D.C. 7 p.m. for you in Tel Aviv, Greg. And we are going to talk |
| 0:56.5 | because this week, Washington and Tel Aviv are on shaky grounds tied, of course, to the war with Iran. |
| 1:02.1 | Franco, I want to start with a phone call that made a lot of news this week. Yeah, Trump had a phone call |
| 1:08.3 | with the prime minister of UB Netanyahu of Israel. |
| 1:12.1 | And Trump at first called the call a productive call where he told Netanyahu to basically pull away from the attacks, planned attacks, and it's been attacks on Lebanon. |
| 1:23.7 | There's always been some strikes recently. |
| 1:26.1 | Trump wanted to stop those because the concern was that it was, you know, messing up or having a negative impact on talks with Iran. |
| 1:35.4 | Well, that so-called productive call later emerged that it was not so nice, at least not a nice call. |
| 1:43.3 | And that Trump actually called Netanyahu crazy, dropped a bunch of |
| 1:47.5 | F-bombs, and Trump actually confirmed this a few days later on a podcast called Pod Force One. |
| 1:57.1 | I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon, you know, at some point |
| 2:06.7 | I said, maybe we've got to stop this, we've got to stop it. |
| 2:10.6 | Greg, what's the reaction been in Israel? |
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