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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

Trump-Musk Threats Darken as Their Anger at Enemies Takes Ominous Turn

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Our descent into authoritarian rule continues. Over the weekend, Elon Musk raged on Twitter that people at CBS News deserve a “long prison sentence” based on a fabricated rationale. Meanwhile, President Trump tweeted out a line saying straight out that his presidency is above the law. And Trump nominated a nominee for U.S. Attorney in D.C. who has elevated the idea that DOJ should have no independence from the president. According to scholars of authoritarianism, these are the things that happen when a country is sliding into authoritarian rule. We talked to one such scholar, Steven Levitsky, co-author of a great new piece that charts what the path to American autocracy looks like. He explains how Trump-Musk’s latest moves, show how far along on this slide we truly are. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.6

This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.

0:46.5

I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

0:59.4

Our slide into authoritarian rule continues.

1:05.6

Over the weekend, Elon Musk raged on Twitter that people at CBS's 60 Minutes deserve a long prison sentence based on a fabricated rationale.

1:10.5

Meanwhile, President Trump tweeted out a line saying

1:13.6

straight out that his presidency is above the law. And Trump nominated a dangerous new pick for

1:19.8

U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., someone who has echoed Trump's rhetoric about the 2020 election

1:25.9

being stolen from him and has elevated the idea

1:28.9

that DOJ should have no independence from the president. According to scholars of authoritarianism,

1:35.8

these are exactly the types of things that happen when a country is sliding into authoritarian rule.

1:41.6

Today we're talking to one of those scholars, Stephen Levitsky, co-author of a

1:45.7

great new piece in foreign affairs that takes stock of how far along this downward slide we currently

1:51.2

are. Steve, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Steve, let's first talk about this

1:58.0

Musk tweet. Quote, they deserve a long prison sentence, Musk said, calling 60 Minutes liars who interfered in the last election.

2:07.7

The charge is completely fabricated, but that aside, here is Musk, a very senior influential advisor to the president,

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