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🗓️ 5 October 2025
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Trump and Republicans have officially lost the messaging war on the ongoing government shutdown. Brian interviews Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Ro Khanna, and Tommy Vietor to talk about why the shutdown is going poorly for the GOP
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| 0:00.0 | Donald Trump and Republicans have officially lost the messaging war on the ongoing government shutdown, |
| 0:06.1 | and I've got four interviews this week. I'm joined by Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, |
| 0:09.8 | Rokana, and Tommy Vitor to talk about why the shutdown is going poorly for the GOP. |
| 0:14.2 | I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. |
| 0:19.3 | So I think we can definitively say by now that the ongoing government shutdown has proven |
| 0:23.4 | a massive liability and a political loser for the GOP. And now we've got proof. According to Kaiser |
| 0:28.6 | Family Foundation polling, Americans want Congress to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act credits |
| 0:33.4 | by a staggering 78 to 22 percent margin. Nearly 8 in 10 Americans side with the Democrats here. |
| 0:40.4 | And the reason why is beyond simple. |
| 0:42.5 | If Republicans get their way, the ACA subsidies will expire at the end of this year. |
| 0:46.9 | And that means that for the 24 million Americans who get their health care through the ACA |
| 0:51.1 | marketplace, prices will increase up to four times what they are right |
| 0:55.4 | now, four times more expensive. Senator Warnock has been sharing screen grabs from his constituents |
| 1:00.5 | showing the difference between 2025 prices and 2026 prices. One tweet he shared shows |
| 1:06.4 | $307 turning into $964. Another one shows 228, turning into 1,142. |
| 1:15.9 | So like, unless your entire identity is just blindly supporting whatever Trump says, his every whim, or just, I don't know, trafficking in chaos, I cannot imagine who is out there rooting for |
| 1:29.4 | health care prices to go through the roof. And so the Democrats' position is this. They are using |
| 1:34.6 | what little leverage they've got, knowing that Republicans will need seven Democratic votes in |
| 1:38.7 | the Senate to force this issue. They will not budge unless the Republicans restore these ACA subsidies, which puts |
| 1:45.5 | Republicans in a bad position for two reasons. First, the longer this shutdown goes on, the more |
| 1:51.0 | people learn that this is why. Like the left for once is beating the right on messaging, probably |
| 1:56.2 | because the right knows their position here sucks. And so every single day, more and more people |
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