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The Beat with Ari Melber

Trump Loses Bid to Put Troops in Chicago

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Government, Ms Now, Versant, Versant Media, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Another court has stopped President Trump’s bid to seize powers and put troops in the streets. Legendary Political Strategist James Carville joins to discuss.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the beat, everyone. Happy Friday. I'm Ari Melbourne. We have James Carville here to kick off our show to end this week. Lead this segment. He's going to be in our lead-off segment. You can see he's in a beautiful place. So James, we'll check in on your vibes in a couple moments. We're tracking a new court loss for President Trump.

0:18.5

Another court now stopping his bid to try to seize powers and put troops in the

0:22.2

streets, something that has been, of course, controversial with a lot of protest. Trump has been trying to

0:27.3

claim the power to deploy troops, and he's done it under the authority of what he calls

0:31.9

rebellion. That's even when governors oppose using their state's guard that way, and even when

0:36.7

there's no

0:37.5

apparent rebellion, not one that anyone has seen. Well, judges have rebuffed Trump and this powerful

0:43.0

appeals court is blocking Trump's plot to put the troops in Chicago as unlawful. The court telling

0:48.7

Trump that he's wrong, he does not have this power. And when it comes to this factual question that I

0:53.7

just mentioned of, well, does the rebellion clause kick in?

0:57.7

This appeals court ruling that democracy and political opposition are not an organized rebellion, reinforcing Trump's prior losses in the lower courts on the abuse of this same type of power. So Trump is losing on the law.

1:14.4

This is not rebellion, the court says. Now, the language and precedent are pretty clear there.

1:19.2

So Trump's only legal path to still trying to get his troops back into the streets here would be to get

1:24.4

the Supreme Court to bail him out, something they have done on other

1:27.9

issues. So he's asking the High Court to overrule this loss. Justice Barrett today did not order

1:34.1

the type of stay that Trump wants. So instead, no emergency immediate action today, which means he is

1:40.8

still on the losing side of this, Illinois officials can respond by the end of the day,

1:45.1

Monday the beginning of next week. If you are keeping track, this is another loss where Donald Trump

1:51.3

has, of course, some agents and some troops in the streets and some level of concern, fear,

1:58.2

and even among some people, a kind of despondent feeling that, well, I guess he's getting

2:02.3

away with it all. And on some things, he is. But on this one, he's not. And so the political

2:07.8

strategy of flooding the zone or taking the L's and hoping people just focus on other things

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