From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

I'm Pete Barara.

I think comparing him to today's era, it's like in sports.

It's difficult to compare someone who played in the 60s to playing now, right?

I don't know how he would have done it in social media.

I think that would have been very difficult for him.

And I think when people try and compare what's happening today,

they go, oh, we missed him, we want more Tim Russell.

I don't know if the landscape lends itself to that.

I really don't.

That's Luke Russell.

When Luke was first introduced to the world,

it was in June of 2008, after funeral for his father,

the legendary Meet the Press moderator, Tim Russell.

Luke was then just 22 years old.

He needed a liberty of eulogy so powerful that in the days and weeks that followed,

clips of his words were featured on cable news shows.

It was an occasion that Luke would later call both his worst day

and his biggest opportunity.

That's because he was soon offered the chance to join NBC News,

the same network where his father had worked.

Luke would go on to become a congressional correspondent,

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