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Trump keeps US and Europe in the dark on Iran plans

KCRW's Left, Right & Center

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352865, News

4.2 • 4.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

President Trump has plans for securing peace after Israel launched a war with Iran. However, he’s keeping them to himself. A lack of clarity on whether the U.S. will support Israel has created a divide amongst interventionist and isolationist wings of Trump supporters. Which direction will Trump’s often-touted “America First” policy lead the U.S. in?

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0:00.0

Welcome to left, right, and center. I'm Molly Ball, senior political correspondent at the Wall Street Journal, filling in for David Green.

0:09.6

I'm joined on the panel by Mo Alafi, executive director at Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service.

0:16.6

He was also communications director for the Democratic National Committee and an advisor to Hillary Clinton and Sarah Isker, senior editor at the dispatch and host of the advisory opinions podcast.

0:27.3

She's a lawyer and was the spokesperson at the Department of Justice under President Trump in his first term.

0:32.1

Hello, everyone.

0:33.0

Hey, Molly.

0:34.2

Molly!

0:35.6

So, America First, it's the rallying cry of the Trump administration's foreign policy.

0:41.5

But the phrase's true meaning could be put to the test as the president contemplates American involvement in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

0:50.0

You don't know that I'm going to even do it. You don't know. I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do. I can tell you this, that Iran's got a lot of trouble.

1:00.3

And they want to negotiate. And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before? All this

1:05.3

death and destruction. Why didn't you negotiate? I said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me two weeks ago? You could have done fine. One circle of support for the

1:15.2

president on the right sees on the ground support for Israel as an unnecessary involvement for the United States.

1:21.4

On the other end of the spectrum are conservatives pushing for the president to reiterate America's

1:25.7

partnership with Israel by providing material

1:27.8

support to defeat Iran. And in the middle is President Trump himself, who has used a number of

1:33.4

truth social posts in recent days to try to threaten Iran into an agreement to pause their nuclear

1:38.5

program and end missile strikes on Israel. Iran's development of nuclear weapons is a long-time

1:44.0

concern for the U.S.

1:45.0

and other countries. So, Mo, let's start with you. What are your thoughts on the potential for

1:51.1

U.S. involvement in Iran? I don't know how to answer that question, Molly, right? Like,

1:57.5

it's Donald Trump, so everything is unpredictable, and I think that's part of what he's trying to convey is his unpredictability.

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