The tariffs are about the supply of goods.

Immigration is about the supply of labor.

And it's exactly what you said, Moni.

You're driving inflation on the side of labor, which as Hacid and Bess and others will tell you,

like the labor stuff is driving a lot of the cost increases now.

Great.

I'm so glad we have geniuses in charge.

Thank you. Great. I'm so glad we have geniuses in charge. Welcome to the Mona Charrin Show. So glad you could be here today. I am delighted to welcome my friend and colleague, Will Salatin, of the Bullwork. For those of you who are notwark plus members, you will perhaps not know that Will and I have a long history together where we were recording once every three weeks or so, a different podcast that was for members only. And the reason I wanted to have Will on this podcast is because Will has a kind of reputation around the shop for being the guy who can always find the optimistic tape on the news.

He's the one who finds the little pony in the, you know, the old story about, you know,

the shoveling the you know what and finding the pony underneath.

He was always going to be the one to find the pony, even to the point if he had, he's not

at home right now, but at home he has a little like pony doll that he keeps on his shelf

and he brings out just for, you know, giving us the optimistic tape.

Well, Will, first of all, thank you for being here.

It is holiday time.

And there are, and the reason I wanted you here is there are actually a lot of ponies at the moment. Like earlier this year,

we had to really struggle to come up with something. But I would love to sit with you now

and go through all of the things that are going so badly wrong for this authoritarian nightmare, boor, hideous creature who is the

President of the United States.

Let's do it.

You good with this plan?

I haven't heard a better plan in months, Mona.

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