Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast, a new episode of the Trump trials with our partners from law fair.

Donald Trump did not have a great day on the legal front Wednesday including

E. Jean Carroll who won another defamation case against him and hearing one of his

his employees is actually officially cooperating with Jack Smith in the

documents case. We're going to be talking about the Proud Boy trial, we're

going to be talking about their sentencing, we're joined, of course, once again, by Ben Wittis,

editor-in-chief of Lawfair, and Roger Parlov, senior editor at Lawfair, who has been covering

the Proud Boys trial. So Ben and Roger, welcome back on the podcast first of all.

Thank you. Good to see you. Okay, could you indulge me for a moment because I just have to

get this off my chest? The US Senate's dumbest member, Tommy Tubberville, is explaining why he's

put a hold on all of these promotions in the military and he had some comments about the

wokeness of the U Navy yesterday that I let's just play this

there's no second place in war okay we have to have the best and right now we are so

woke in the military we're losing recruits right and left

Secretary of the Navy he needs to get to building ships he needs to get to

recruiting and he needs to get woken us out of our Navy. We've got people doing

poems on aircraft carriers over the loudspeaker. It is absolutely insane of

the direction that we're headed in our military and we're headed downhill

bad their poems they're poems dude you can't have people writing poems during war, you know, that leads to Homer, that leads to, you know, all those World War I British poets, you know, you just can't have it.

You know, war and poetry don't go together.

It's wokism, no poetry for the military.

I'm reluctant to venture into Tommy Tuberville's mind because it's a scary and vastly empty place,

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