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The Owen Jones Podcast

Trump Is Trapped Over Iran - Ex-US Official Explains Why

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 22 minutes

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0:00.0

So the Iran catastrophe is unfolding before us and I've got a brilliant former US official who

0:07.3

lost his job during Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people. One of those US officials

0:12.0

who paid a price for not towing the line when it came to the crime of crimes, which obviously

0:19.6

the US government facilitated, Shad

0:22.4

Gureshi, who, as I said, used to be there at the State Department.

0:26.6

And Shahad, it's great to speak to you. How you doing?

0:29.6

Good, good, good to be here. I'm tracking your work, so I'm glad I can join you.

0:34.6

I'm sorry about that. Apologies, all of it.

0:38.3

I just want to start with, I guess, let's just start with just where the hell we're at, I guess.

0:44.3

We'll talk about the big picture and I'm interested what you think this means for US power, I guess, for, you know, where this leaves the US as the flailing hegemon.

0:53.3

The blockade, the blockade on a blockade.

0:56.1

That's what we're talking about.

0:56.7

There's a blockade on a blockade.

0:58.6

What's your general, what's your thoughts on that?

1:01.9

Yeah, just taking a step back,

1:04.4

President Trump put himself between a rock and a hard place that doesn't really exist.

1:11.6

One option he's had since before the war even started was getting a deal with Iran

1:17.4

that was far greater than anything that was in the Iran nuclear deal from 2015.

1:23.1

It was sitting in front of him, but still he chose to go to war with Iran because of pressure from his New Kona advisors,

1:33.5

the pro-Israel crowd outside of the White House and very online, and of course, Netanyahu himself.

1:40.9

And this has put him in his position where he can't handle politically

1:46.9

continuing this war because the gas price is going to go up. It's killing the housing market.

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