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This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

We've got the votes and screw the rest of you.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells.

Didn't catch people's eyes. Hello and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head.

Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR Network.

Each week, Norm Bernstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into another cycle of elections. But Norm, what a week it's been. We've had quite possibly, I would say, the most alerts I've ever had on my phone because not just all of social media lighting up but I think every attorney that I know in the entire United States had been texting at the same time that 34 counts against President Trump had come out and I and I honest I got it what then ensued with I'm curious what happened in the minutes

Following the announcement for you because I know you were on Twitter or you were on social but I'm just wondering one what your kind of immediate thoughts were and the reason I asked that is because I found myself amongst a sea of like, I'll call it Obama alumni and Biden kind of current slash alumni attorneys all trying to like figure out what

happened next not you know not just okay yes there's a you know there'll be a

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