Tonight of the legal battle over Mike Pence's testimony, one of Trump's lawyers who could

appear before the grand jury tomorrow in court today challenging subpoenas for the

former vice president.

And Ron DeSand is walking back his comments on Ukraine while struggling to answer softball

questions from a friendly interviewer.

Then the clock ticking on TikTok, the company CEO grilled on Capitol Hill for hours over

security concerns.

That means for the apps, 150 million American users, as the 11th hour gets underway on this

Thursday night.

Good evening, I'm Mehdi Hassan in for Stephanie Rule.

Former president Trump's legal peril may be about to get much worse.

NBC News has learned that one of his defense attorneys, Evan Cochran, is expected to appear

before a grand jury investigating the classified documents case as early as tomorrow.

Cochran is also involved in the other federal investigation involving Trump.

Today he appeared in federal court in DC as part of the team challenging special counsel

Jack Smith's subpoena to former president, former vice president, excuse me Mike Pence.

This hearing focused on whether Pence must testify about his dealings with Trump around

January the 6th.

But lawyers for Trump appear to be in odds with the former vice president.

As NBC News put it, they argue Pence can't testify because of executive privilege.

Pence has argued he's immune from testifying because of legal protections for lawmakers.

He says he was acting as president of the Senate during the January 6 electoral vote count

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