Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger,

joined by Jonah Goldberg and Kevin Williamson.

And okay, wow. So there's been some breaking news.

We're going to start with a short little discussion on the Trump

indictment. We'll go from there to talk more about the shooting in

Nashville and what if anything there is to say about gun control in the

United States moving forward. And then we'll talk a little bit about

France entitlement reform before we get to

not worth your time. Question mark.

Let's dive right in. So in some ways there's not a whole lot to say.

Donald Trump becomes the first United States president, former president

indicted of a felony. But at the same time the indictment's under seal.

And so we don't know a whole lot more than we knew

several hours ago in terms of what exactly he's being

indicted for. We're making the same assumption that we were making before

that this is the felony aggravated falsification of business records

under New York state law, which requires sort of this federal crime tie-in

and then it's related to the hush money payments that he made

to stormy Daniels. But I don't know, Kevin, are you feeling any

differently than you were? Yeah, in some ways. I like the idea of any

ex-president being indicted in some ways, simply because we have this weird

merging presidential cult thing where we treat them as though they're

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