Trump Hearts Mamdani, MAGA Bots Exposed, and the Summer Walker Drama Explained

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Van and Rachel check in on the state of politics and culture before taking a quick Thanksgiving break! (0:00) Intro (12:58) Mamdani’s meeting with Trump (42:10) No primary challenge for Representative Hakeem Jeffries (59:53) The erotic poetry of RFK Jr. (1:16:14) A new game: Where in the world is MAGA? (1:24:58) Klay Thompson vs. Ja Morant (1:33:38) Summer Walker relationship drama Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought lawyers.
0:02.9	What is up?
0:04.1	How are learning is on and is I Van Lathan Jr.
0:05.8	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:08.0	Okay, so people are misunderstanding the matrix?
0:10.4	No, Van.
0:11.4	Wait, can I just, are people misunderstanding the matrix?
0:15.8	Like, I don't know about the matrix.
0:18.2	I don't know if that's like of something
0:20.1	that's front of mind for most people.
0:23.8	You're right.
0:25.3	But you are interested in the Matrix.
0:28.4	Well, no, I'm interested in how I think our misunderstanding of the Matrix sometimes talks about the power of story, media, and cultural literacy,
0:41.7	and are reflex to view things in a certain lens.
0:48.5	In what way?
0:49.9	All right, I'm going to ask a question real quick.
0:52.1	To everyone in the room, where do the free human beings in the Matrix world live?
1:04.1	Who knows?
1:05.7	I don't know what you mean by free human beings.
1:07.8	What's the name of the free city?
1:10.4	Is this from the movie?
1:11.7	From the movie.
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