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The Daily Beast Podcast

Trump Going off His Rocker as Judges Say No: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Trump chronicler Michael Wolff joins the Beast’s Joanna Coles to go inside the rage-filled White House where Trump is reacting to blows from judges—including to his tariffs. They explore what happens when judges say no to Trump. And they examine how tariffs have become a unilateral tool of punishment and power, why the courts are pushing back, and how Trump reacts with rage when confronted by these limits. From attempts to deploy the National Guard in Los Angeles to efforts to expand emergency powers, this episode examines what it looks like when one President attempts to circumvent a republic’s rules and insists that no one can oppose him. At stake are the checks and balances of American democracy and the question of whether the system can withstand Trump’s defiance. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:31.5

I'm Joanna Coles. Oh. Can you remember who you are?

0:38.7

I'm Joanna Coles.

0:40.4

No, you're definitely not Joanna Coles.

0:43.0

I'm Michael Bulls.

0:44.0

And where are we going on today's trip?

0:47.1

We are going, alas, inside Donald Trump's head.

0:52.6

It's the first week back of school, and it should feel like a school outing.

0:57.5

I've sent my kids back to school this morning.

1:00.1

Do you remember those school outings where you all went on a bus,

1:02.7

and there were always people who were sick?

1:04.7

Always, always.

1:06.1

And I have gone as an adult on those buses,

1:08.5

and they really rattle like something crazy. You think, my God,

1:13.8

we put children on these. Those yellow school bus. I know that's a very American thing. We don't have

1:18.3

those in England. Anyway, we're going on a trip inside Trump's head and we're going to be talking

1:23.6

about people who say no to Trump. What happens when people say no? What happens when people

1:29.6

say no? What happens to them and what happens inside his head? The chemistry of no for Donald

1:36.8

Trump is combustible. The chemistry of what happens when you say no to Donald Trump. So come with us on our magic school bus ride.

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