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🗓️ 1 December 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Trump goes off the deep end with the dangerous pick of Kash Patel to lead the FBI. Brian interviews Pod Save America’s Tommy Vietor to discuss the extent to which Democrats need to retool. And Max Stier from the Partnership for Public Service joins to discuss whether Trump could actually be successful at enacting the worst element of Project 2025: firing career civil servants and replacing them with loyalists.
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0:31.7 | Today we're going to talk about the danger of Trump's latest pick to lead the FBI and what it says |
0:35.7 | more broadly about his priorities in this administration. |
0:38.6 | And I've got two interviews this week. |
0:40.1 | I sit down with Pod Save America's Tommy Vitor to discuss the extent to which Democrats need |
0:43.9 | to retool after the 2024 election. |
0:46.4 | And I'm joined by Max Steyer from the Partnership for Public Service to discuss whether |
0:49.8 | Trump could actually be successful at enacting the worst element of Project 2025, |
0:54.7 | firing career civil servants, and replacing them with loyalists. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No |
0:59.3 | Lie. You know by now that Donald Trump has nominated Cash Patel to lead the FBI. To give |
1:06.9 | you an idea of who Cash Patel is, I'm actually going to defer to Bill Barr's words |
1:11.1 | here from his book. |
1:12.7 | The president then started advancing the idea of appointing Cash Patel as deputy FBI director. |
1:17.8 | Patel, who was completing a stint as deputy to acting director of National Intelligence, Rick |
1:21.8 | Grinnell, had been a staffer to Kevin Nunes and had served briefly on the NSC staff |
1:26.4 | at the White House under Trump. |
1:27.8 | I categorically opposed making Patel deputy FBI director. |
1:31.4 | I told Mark Meadows it would happen, quote, over my dead body. |
1:35.2 | In the first place, all leadership positions in the Bureau, except the director, have always been FBI agents. |
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