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The Playbook Podcast

Trump goes nuclear

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Minutes before President Donald Trump headed into his long-awaited and widely watched meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, he took to Truth Social to announce that the U.S. would “immediately” begin testing nuclear weapons. The U.S. has not conducted a test of nuclear weapons in more than three decades. But it’s unclear how much of a practical play this announcement by Trump was or whether it was largely wielded as a negotiating tactic with other nuclear powers. Playbook’s Jack Blanchard and White House Bureau Chief Dasha Burns dig into the nuclear news, and the government shutdown that Trump is returning to today.

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Today on the playbook podcast, Donald Trump lands back in D.C. this afternoon after almost a week in Asia, we'll assess

0:39.4

his trip. He met with President Xi Jinping of China last night and breaking news announced

0:44.7

plans to restart nuclear weapons tests in the US for the first time in 30 years. We'll unpick

0:50.9

that. And reality check for the president, he's now walking back to a federal

0:55.1

government that is in the 30th day of its shutdown. Hello, I'm Jack Blanchard. And I'm Dasha

1:02.1

Burns. It is Thursday, October 30th. How you doing, Dasha? Nice to see you. Good morning. I think

1:07.9

my movie tales from yesterday might be getting a little close to reality.

1:13.0

You're right. You started this whole thing off by talking about nuclear weapons, and now here we are about to talk loan more about nuclear weapons.

1:19.3

I was honestly not on my bingo card. That was not the topic I was expecting to cover this week.

1:24.4

At least you're well briefed, right? You're going to talk with an expert, although the Pentagon did not like that movie, I know, but nevertheless. Trump is on a plane back to DC as this podcast goes out. He met with President Xi Jinping last night. At the time of recording this in the dead of night, we don't know how that meeting went. Trump was speaking very positively about it beforehand. Asha, as we were saying,

2:04.1

yesterday, he's really been bigging it up, saying what a great success it's going to be. But it would probably take a few days or even weeks before we really find out what went on, right? Yeah. You know what it's like journalists like to unpick exactly what went on inside the room, and that involves a lot of text messages and a lot of private conversations. Correct. You know what my schedule is going to be full of for the coming days.

2:04.1

Yeah, exactly. involves a lot of text messages and a lot of private conversations. Correct. You know what my schedule's going to be full of for the coming days.

2:09.6

Yeah, exactly. So we'll see how that pans out. But what we do know is that Donald Trump,

2:14.6

well, I was going to say dropped a bomb just before he went in. And that's probably a terrible language to use. Yeah, I don't know if that's terrible or perfect verbiage.

2:18.5

I don't know.

2:19.3

And like, let's be clear about the significance of the timing here, minutes before he walks

2:25.5

into this high-stakes meeting with our adversary, that he's been building up, as you mentioned,

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