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Trump Goes All In on the SAVE Act

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MS NOW, Ali Velshi

Politics, News, News Commentary, Ms Now, Versant Media, Versant, Ali Velshi, Government, Weekend News

4.7793 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson; MS NOW Contributor Inzamam Rashid; Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-PA); New York Times Contributing Writer Molly Jong-Fast; The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson

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0:00.0

Good morning. It is Saturday, March the 21st. I'm Ali Velshi. In August of 2014, a man named

0:14.2

Wayne Fish went to a divisions of vehicle office in Lawrence, Kansas to renew his driver's license.

0:20.2

While he was there, he availed himself

0:21.4

of the opportunity to register to vote. He left the office that day, believing that he had,

0:26.1

in fact, registered to vote, but he had not. The division of vehicle employee did not inform him that

0:33.6

Kansas had recently passed a law which required documentary proof of citizenship to register

0:40.4

to vote. Fish received a letter in the mail saying his registration application was incomplete and that he

0:45.7

had to provide proof of citizenship, which is harder than it might seem in a country in which there

0:50.8

are absolutely zero other reasons to need documentary proof of citizenship.

0:56.4

He could not find his birth certificate.

0:58.1

When he attempted to obtain a replacement from his place of birth, he ran into another obstacle.

1:02.7

He was born on what was by then a decommissioned Air Force base in Illinois.

1:08.2

Two years and an entire election cycle later, Fish finally found his birth certificate

1:13.8

in a safe belonging to his late mother. The Secretary of State in Kansas at the time,

1:19.9

Chris Kobach, had championed a law that would require people who registered a vote to provide

1:24.7

documentary proof of citizenship. It was called the Safe, Secure, and Fair

1:30.0

Election Act. And in its brief lifespan, before a judge threw it out in 2018, it prevented 30,000

1:37.5

Kansansans from registering to vote. That number includes Wayne Fish, who was one of the plaintiffs

1:43.0

in the lawsuit that got the law overturned.

1:45.9

How many of those 30,000 were non-citizens attempting to vote?

1:49.8

The federal judge's ruling says the court was provided with a spreadsheet of 16 non-citizens

1:56.7

who attempted to register to vote between 2013 and 2016.

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