Listener and viewer, as you know, there are so many things going on with big tech right now, particularly AI and these monopolies that are forming within the media.

So we have asked former assistant deputy attorney general who was in charge of antitrust and current professor

Jonathan canter on the podcast. Jonathan, thank you for coming on and I am desperate to find out

what's going on with all this AI staff. So you're having expertise with big tech and you've fought big tech and won.

Can you explain to me what the AI situation is currently and what your fear is going forward?

Okay.

The way to start is the word antitrust.

The trust in the word antitrust goes back to an era where you had a bunch of these oligarchs.

Think Carnegie. Think Rockefeller.

And they had interests in all the companies, all the railroad companies, all the oil companies.

It was this tangled web of control run by a small number of really, really rich oligarchs

who essentially controlled society.

And Congress and the public said, enough is enough.

We want laws to prevent this.

And so they enacted the antitrust laws.

Here we are, over 100 years later, we have the exact same thing happening.

We have oligarchs who have interests all over the place. OpenAI and Invidia and Microsoft and

Google and Amazon have investments in Anthropic. Invity investments in Open AI, Open AI has investments in

AMD. All of these companies are tangled together, and it's a small number of them

owned or controlled by these massive billionaires who have the same kind of influence on society

that led to the creation of the antitrust laws in the first place.

Now, it's terrifying. And is it the job of the Justice Department to go in and seek litigation

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