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To the Point

Trump finally sees coronavirus as a pandemic. Will he take responsibility or leave that up to governors?

To the Point

KCRW

News

4.4583 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

President Trump has finally changed course, seeing COVID-19 as no longer a “hoax.” Experts predict the pandemic could kill up to 200,000 Americans. Is Trump providing leadership or leaving the responsibility to state governors?

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0:00.0

This is going to be a very painful, very, very painful two weeks.

0:06.0

When you look and see at night the kind of death that's been caused by this invisible enemy, it's incredible.

0:16.0

That's President Trump this week, talking about the coronavirus pandemic that he first called a hoax, despite

0:22.6

warnings from scientific advisors. Just last week, he was still optimistic about opening up the

0:29.1

economy right away. I'd love to have the country opened up and they're just raring to go by Easter.

0:36.9

Now the president has accepted projections that 100,000 to 200,000 Americans will die in a very short time.

0:45.7

A lot of people are positive and they hope for the best.

0:48.9

Because when this gets the wrong person, meaning a person that qualifies, generally speaking, under the list.

0:55.0

It is ravaging. It is horrible.

0:58.0

He even told CNN's Jim Acosta he has prevented the death toll from being even worse.

1:04.0

Look, Jim, I think we've done a great job. We're going to see how it comes out.

1:10.0

But when you look at minimal numbers of 120,000 people,

1:13.5

when you look at it could have been 2.2 million people died and more if we did nothing.

1:19.0

It was on Tuesday that the president claimed his actions have reduced the death toll,

1:23.3

and it's important to put that claim in context. Just one day before, I talked with David Sanger,

1:29.8

National Security correspondent for the New York Times. After months of downplaying the pandemic,

1:36.0

Trump had finally said he'd declared war. And I asked Sanger, how that was going.

1:42.1

Well, Warren, what he's done so far is try to have the rhetoric of a wartime presidency,

1:47.2

but it's not clear to us that he has actually been willing to take the responsibility of a wartime leader.

1:55.4

At one point, Trump even said it himself.

1:57.6

No, I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of

2:04.1

circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.

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