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🗓️ 19 September 2025
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President Donald Trump has filed a new defamation lawsuit against The New York Times. A New York judge has dismissed two terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione. The federal government is sending the National Guard into Memphis, Tennessee. Let’s discuss all these stories together.
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| 0:00.0 | All right. Let's begin today's discussion over in New York, where you just had a state judge |
| 0:05.2 | dismissed two of the terrorist charges against Luigi Mangione, which sounds bad, but in order |
| 0:11.3 | to understand the full context, this action does require a bit of explanation. You see, the prosecutors |
| 0:16.2 | in this case, they were arguing that Luigi's actions, they met the threshold for domestic terrorism. |
| 0:23.1 | And to that end, the state prosecutors, they wrote the following in a recent court filing. |
| 0:28.3 | Quote, Mangione's intentions were obvious from his acts, but his writings served to make those |
| 0:32.7 | intentions explicit. His writings convey one clear message that the murder of Brian Thompson was intended to |
| 0:38.8 | bring about revolutionary change to the health care industry. Law enforcement indicates that the |
| 0:43.6 | words delay, deny, and depose that were etched into the bullet casings echoed a phrase commonly |
| 0:49.5 | used to describe how major insurance companies avoid paying claims. And so that's what these state prosecutors |
| 0:55.6 | were arguing. However, New York judge Gregory Carroll, he ruled that although Luigi's actions were |
| 1:01.3 | obviously ideologically motivated, they didn't actually meet the threshold to warrant a terrorism |
| 1:07.3 | charge being lobbied against them. That's because under New York State law, |
| 1:16.9 | the word terrorism is defined in a lot more of a narrow sense than how it's typically used by you and I colloquially in everyday speech. According to New York State Penal Code, |
| 1:21.4 | you can see it up on your screen, subsection 490.25, it says that an act is terrorism only if it's committed with intent to intimidate |
| 1:30.2 | a coercive civilian population, influence government policy, or affect government conduct by murder, |
| 1:36.5 | assassination, or kidnapping. Basically, the prosecutors had to prove that Luigi had an intent to |
| 1:42.3 | achieve one of those three goals with the murder of Brian Thompson. |
| 1:45.8 | But the judge in the case, he found that the prosecutors failed to present concrete evidence |
| 1:49.9 | that Luigi was attempting to do one of those things when he killed Brian Thompson, |
| 1:54.1 | either to coerce a civilian population, to influence government policy, |
| 1:58.4 | and or to affect government conduct. |
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