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Trump Expanding Third-Country Removals of Asylum Seekers in California

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KQED

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The current Trump administration has deported roughly 8,000 people to places most have never even visited, in a process known as third-country removal. Critics say this violates U.S. law, depriving people seeking asylum of their due process rights. We hear from a Russian whistleblower and asylum seeker who was en route to California when he was deported… to Costa Rica. Plus, we’ll hear from lawyers who are seeing the Trump administration expand third-country removals for asylum seekers within California. Guests: José "Caya" Cayasso, co-founder of the tech startup Slidebean; YouTuber and journalist who first reported German's story German, Russian whistleblower who was deported to Costa Rica after attempting to seek asylum in the United States Dr. Yael Schacher, immigration law historian and director for the Americas and Europe, Refugees International Nicole Gorney, immigration attorney, Vidas Legal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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When German and his family made it to the California-Mexico border

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and requested political asylum from persecution in Russia, they were detained at Otay Mesa,

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